tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3348523519788188753.post1312481930025225284..comments2024-03-12T04:14:16.271-05:00Comments on The Rad Trad: On Nostalgia, Apologetics, and ApostasyThe Rad Tradhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00899289024837953345noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3348523519788188753.post-30202441642274976112016-09-28T05:53:22.971-05:002016-09-28T05:53:22.971-05:00Amen!
Amen!<br />Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05031236665429079539noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3348523519788188753.post-49425767154528793962015-05-19T07:06:10.669-05:002015-05-19T07:06:10.669-05:00Thinking their pet theories are unassailable is no...Thinking their pet theories are unassailable is not a problem for just a few professional apologists. Scott Hahn came to St. Therese de Lesieux in Wellington, Florida a few years ago and I was there, having bought my event ticket well in advance.<br /><br />I was there waiting for the Q & A portion because Dr Hahn was speaking, among other things, about his "Fourth Cup" thesis; distilled to its erroneous essence, Hahn teaches that Last Supper was a Seder. <br /><br />I was prepared to politely call into question his bizarre assertions and I even met him and introduced myself to him prior to the event, saying I was looking forward to the Q & A.<br /><br />Well, the Q & A went away and so I wrote an email to the woman who organized the event, copied the Pastor etc and I was given Hahn's email address. <br /><br />I emailed him and was put in contact with a grad asst and we had several lengthy exchanges - me quoting from Catena Aurea and a Lapide and he quoting Hahn relentlessly and so it went to no end point and I disengaged.<br /><br />Hahn has been all over hell and creation advancing this thesis and the local Pastors hear it as Gospel and, thus, more and more men are severed fromTradition and our Gospel becomes what the latest popular former evangelical claims it is.<br /><br />What can be done about all of this?<br /><br />Institutionally, nothing; it is only at the level of the Domestic Church that the truth will be conserved and handed on.<br /><br />Long ago, the Church failed in America (Only the Holy See of Peter is infallibly promised to never fail) and the little fun we are allowed to have is by making our own way searching for love amongst the ruins.<br /><br />And that is one major reason why men like Rad Trad are invaluable; and, maybe, somehow the Holy Ghost is assisting the formation of at least a spiritual synaxis of traditionalists on the internet; sure, its a poor substitution for real Parishes and real human connections but it is not nothing - it is somethingMick Jagger Gathers No Mosquehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12879499915093940176noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3348523519788188753.post-58082152679336212072015-05-15T15:44:18.272-05:002015-05-15T15:44:18.272-05:00I have no doubt many Catholic apologists begin the...I have no doubt many Catholic apologists begin their careers with a real heart for converting non-Catholics to the Faith. The problem is in making this a career, I think. Soon after making it a career, it can become a job, and a job is just something you do every day to bring in a living. And when you're dealing with maybe dozens of queries a week, whether on the radio or online, that tends to dehumanize the people you're trying to convert. The people get reduced to the questions they ask, and all the questions either have stock answers, or else a new stock answer can be quickly researched and added to the list.<br /><br />Try asking any of the apologists who argued you into the Faith to be your confirmation sponsor, or godparent, if you're being baptized. If they are going to guide people into the Faith, they ought to be willing to follow through with that kind of lifetime commitment, yes?J.https://www.blogger.com/profile/04821093432726247774noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3348523519788188753.post-77905461015864513202015-05-15T07:34:03.498-05:002015-05-15T07:34:03.498-05:00You make a number of excellent points. I've al...You make a number of excellent points. I've always admired the Catholic Evidence Guild, as it's my understanding that, if they didn't know the answer to a particular question, they would search it out and get back to the questioner with an authoritative answer. Compare that with modern catholic apologetics, which seems to have more in common with the methodology of selling of used cars (get them in the door, tell them whatever they need to hear so they'll sign on the dotted line) than it does with the methodology of the Catholic Evidence Guild.<br /><br />Too, there is the issue of the fact that the church that many are being converted into only exists mostly on paper, which is a real challenge to many people. I know several Anglicans/Catholics/Anglicans, and this factor was decisive in many of their cases.Paul Goingshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06479425203740052841noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3348523519788188753.post-79062412465030388292015-05-14T17:47:13.039-05:002015-05-14T17:47:13.039-05:00I'm guessing you already know that I am not, P...I'm guessing you already know that I am not, Prior.J.https://www.blogger.com/profile/04821093432726247774noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3348523519788188753.post-79741935777197866212015-05-14T16:54:50.658-05:002015-05-14T16:54:50.658-05:00"Not all converts come in through the agency ..."Not all converts come in through the agency of apologetics. Some marry into the Faith, others are entranced by the beauty of our art and music,"<br /><br />By this comment are you referring to the strumming of guitars, polyester horse blanket vestments and Our Lady of Pizza Hut architecture?Prior Martinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15676817526437140998noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3348523519788188753.post-7210484481841291352015-05-14T12:50:25.821-05:002015-05-14T12:50:25.821-05:00A fascinating and necessary perspective. Being a ...A fascinating and necessary perspective. Being a cradle-catholic, I never thought much of the CA crowd and apologists as they seemed to just parrot a streamlined bulletpoint of what I was taught through experience and rearing. As a result I tend to forget the impact they actually have. The trials and tribulations of a convert definitely need to be addressed as their view of the faith will necessarily differ from the cradle-catholic. In a sense, it is almost like in the early days of Christianity when the Jews didn't know how to handle the Gentile converts.<br /><br />This "There is no war in Ba Sing Se!" line really does fail in its purpose. Denial of the problems will only make things worse as those who are not content to bury their heads in the sand run the risk of falling into cynicism or worse. The answer should be to openly and honestly acknowledge the problems and resolve to fight them as the faithful in whatever small way we can.<br /><br />The church will survive. The church will endure.Ecclesial Vigilantehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17070187926547373245noreply@blogger.com