tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3348523519788188753.post3571361319270814015..comments2024-03-12T04:14:16.271-05:00Comments on The Rad Trad: Low Mass Culture Strikes Back!The Rad Tradhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00899289024837953345noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3348523519788188753.post-88463020695628920462013-09-09T17:04:14.888-05:002013-09-09T17:04:14.888-05:00Protasi,
What a wonderful resource. I will scour ...Protasi,<br /><br />What a wonderful resource. I will scour through it. My question as to how things were done had more to do with what the consecration of a Pope might look like in terms of ceremony (does the Pope take the standard place and the second concelebrant, does he sit off to the epistle side etc). I asked because before the baroque era, when those prescriptions in the resource you provided above came into being, the episcopal consecration and the coronation were done in the same liturgical function.<br /><br />Thank you again!The Rad Tradhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00899289024837953345noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3348523519788188753.post-75796573899777494822013-09-09T04:06:26.911-05:002013-09-09T04:06:26.911-05:00If the Pontiff-Elect was not yet bishop (or even n...If the Pontiff-Elect was not yet bishop (or even not yet cleric), he was ordained to all necessary orders by one of the Cardinal-bishops before the day of Coronation. The Pontiff-Elect was assisted by the Cardinals in the vestments pertaining to the time and their grade in the Cardinalitial hierarchy.<br /><br />Cf. Piccolomini, Sacrarum Caeremoniarum ... libri tres.<br />http://reader.digitale-sammlungen.de/de/fs1/object/goToPage/bsb10496300.html?pageNo=109Protasiushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13513744611326784368noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3348523519788188753.post-9495793500320767972013-09-05T22:33:44.794-05:002013-09-05T22:33:44.794-05:00Though an isolated event, we had a sung Confiteor ...Though an isolated event, we had a sung Confiteor before Communion at my daughter's baptismal Sung Mass.Marco da Vinhahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06092410765851812842noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3348523519788188753.post-16773991015108475892013-09-04T13:47:02.245-05:002013-09-04T13:47:02.245-05:00I'm not sure if or to what extent any deviatio...I'm not sure if or to what extent any deviations from 1962 occurred at the Econe consecrations as my only knowledge of the ceremony is from the excerpts posted on YouTube. I suspect there's a full-length video of it somewhere, probably in French?<br /><br />My own parish, thanks to visiting FSSP clergy, now employs the diaconal sung Confiteor before Communion at Solemn Masses, but otherwise there is no second (or third) Confiteor in our 1962 village.Joanneshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00496552906164909711noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3348523519788188753.post-74521838616301440012013-09-04T12:26:04.146-05:002013-09-04T12:26:04.146-05:00I'd say della Chiesa, like Montini, knew long ...I'd say della Chiesa, like Montini, knew long before he was made a cardinal what his eventual place would be.<br /><br />Were the 1988 consecrations done with any variations from 1962? The Confiteor at Communion is actually prescribed in 1962 for episcopal Masses (John XXIII left that end loose) and they did not have the chance to do one of their pontifical Missae Cantatae!The Rad Tradhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00899289024837953345noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3348523519788188753.post-73734698321067237682013-09-04T12:21:21.509-05:002013-09-04T12:21:21.509-05:00This almost as shocking as when I had first learne...This almost as shocking as when I had first learned that + della Chiesa (who would become Benedict XV)was made a cardinal not three months before St. Pius X's death. Talk about fast-track promotions!<br /><br />At least the 1988 SSPX consecrations were performed with full ceremonial...according to the rite of Econe, of course! <br /><br /><br />Joanneshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00496552906164909711noreply@blogger.com