tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3348523519788188753.post7375347057133778706..comments2024-03-12T04:14:16.271-05:00Comments on The Rad Trad: Who Are the Poor?The Rad Tradhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00899289024837953345noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3348523519788188753.post-12263674734536494322018-05-13T09:35:15.093-05:002018-05-13T09:35:15.093-05:00Dobri Dobrev wanted another kind of richness that ...Dobri Dobrev wanted another kind of richness that we cannot see that is why giving up his fortune was not making him feel poor.<br />The brotherhood of the enemy, Freemasonry, has stolen many Christian concepts such as caring for the poor and re-presented them in a new wordly way, that all people can be brainwashed and understand. What the devil wants is for the man to stop having faith, stop dedicating his life to a God he cannot see, but lay down horizontally and place worldy values (whether is capitalism or socialism) as the new haven.<br />The socialist man of today is not more charitable than the man living in oppressive monarchies before. On the contrary. He constantly checks beggars for what they might do with the money (what if it is something he politically disapproves of?) and condemns begging out of principle because it is a chaotic disruption of the perfectly systemic society he dreams of. What is a beggar who refuses to be an ordained member of the deprived social class he is in so that he be a political pawn and "inspire" millions to "fight against poverty"? Not even the poor is free from being a symbol of what he is and hence a pagan idol. Everyone must be tempted and registered.<br />Rich or poor, the socialism invented by the devil tempts us with a pedestal to be on (if you are rich brag about what you give, if you are poor lament professionally) or .. face extinction. Dobri Dobrev spit the devil in his face and enjoyed all his self-imposed temporary poor-dom and dedicated it all to what the devil hates most - Christianity. <br />Maryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09224676979690855135noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3348523519788188753.post-37758447962195901082018-05-09T11:35:15.106-05:002018-05-09T11:35:15.106-05:00Matthew, I generally agree with your sentiments bu...Matthew, I generally agree with your sentiments but I am slow to agree with the government’s place in all this, not out of principle (I’m not a libertarian). Here in the US government social programs can help low income people who are in transition (immigrants for instance) but for certain groups, like the black community, trillions of dollars borrowed against other people’s future has failed to improve standing and has destroyed the good things in that community (blacks had lower divorce and illegitimacy rates in the ‘50s than whites). If I saw some evidence government aid did good for the poor proportionate to how much we spend on it I’d be more supportive.<br /><br />You’re right though, the loss of monasteries and also small religious orders (as once existed in the US and Italy) for the care of the local poor is a great tragedy. Many new traditionalist orders seem to be contemplative by nature, which isn’t wrong for Benedictines, but I cannot help but think a great opportunity for outreach is lost in this insularity. The Rad Tradhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00899289024837953345noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3348523519788188753.post-78179645223410162862018-05-07T15:33:26.288-05:002018-05-07T15:33:26.288-05:00It assumes the downtrodden are capable and skilled...<i>It assumes the downtrodden are capable and skilled people who can offer something that our consumer-driven, post-industrial, knowledge-based society wants</i><br /><br />The American economy is perverted and despite the claims of men like Mr. George Weigel it does not measure-up to Catholic Social Teaching.<br /><br />As to the knowledge-based society, it is one of the dumbest ever and that includes the members of the perfect society, The Catholic Church.<br /><br />Even the supposedly well-educated Catholic is woefully unequipped to respond to the change in the Church from Theocentrism to Anthropocentrism .<br /><br />The vast majority of Catholics have been ignored and left uneducated, uncatechised, and they are hated by the rich hierarchy in proportion to their desire to worship as did their Father and Grandfather.<br /><br />The laity is Lazarus studiously ignored by the rich Hierarchy when they are not being propagandised by the rich into what is essentially a Masonic philosophy.<br /><br />Rad Trad, do not neglect the truth that what you have been giving to your loyal readers does not count as a form of Alms for you have been blessing us poor with your wealth of knowledge and insight for what one hopes will amount to about one-tenth of the life of your Blog.Mick Jagger Gathers No Mosquehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12879499915093940176noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3348523519788188753.post-13493488942515187982018-05-06T09:48:29.425-05:002018-05-06T09:48:29.425-05:00This is very good. Not that it would be perfect, b...This is very good. Not that it would be perfect, but someone online said, he embraces that which the socialist left might endorse, such as a welfare state, not because Catholicism demands that we take care of the poor. The dissolution of monasteries is the single worst thing on this front, which is why the state needs to help more than Americans tend to admit. Only in the future can we speak of a social net run by the church with the aid of government, which is a balanced way, IMO, in accordance with the Gelasian dyarchy, instead of the other way around. Matthew Rothhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00958673318312786618noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3348523519788188753.post-60972591520279194382018-05-06T07:37:57.914-05:002018-05-06T07:37:57.914-05:00Western spiritual writers seem to think poverty ha...<i>Western spiritual writers seem to think poverty has a merit all its own. </i><br />and your penultimate paragraph in general, which caused me to reflect on what might be called 'Holy Poverty'. Your 'poverty of disempowerment' is that to which Christians have a clear duty to minister, and enable these poor to choose freely whether to embrace holy poverty.<br /><br />I come to the conclusion that holy poverty is that freely chosen and embraced, as bt St.Francis and his followers, John F H Hhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01032884551581324489noreply@blogger.com