tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3348523519788188753.post786471716814089235..comments2024-03-12T04:14:16.271-05:00Comments on The Rad Trad: The Place of the ApocalypseThe Rad Tradhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00899289024837953345noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3348523519788188753.post-9223326885909572512018-03-22T07:11:13.933-05:002018-03-22T07:11:13.933-05:00Dear J. In his library ABS has a copy of Dom Orcha...Dear J. In his library ABS has a copy of Dom Orchard's "A Catholic Commentary" and it asserts Apocalypse was written by John and he observes that many Early Church Fathers - Justin, Tertullian, Irenaeus etc and the author of the article, C.C. Martindale goes on to say it was written by one author, Saint John and he describes the patter on the prophetic book.<br /><br />It was a healthy surprise to see that as late as the early 1950s Catholic authorities were claiming Saint John as the sole authorMick Jagger Gathers No Mosquehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12879499915093940176noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3348523519788188753.post-91311574734901628512018-03-21T06:41:56.554-05:002018-03-21T06:41:56.554-05:00Yes, like all the great Anglo-Catholic scholarship...Yes, like all the great Anglo-Catholic scholarship of the mid-20th C produced by him and others such as Dix.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3348523519788188753.post-40061813108389052412018-03-20T09:21:31.007-05:002018-03-20T09:21:31.007-05:00Is his book profitable for Catholics then, you'...Is his book profitable for Catholics then, you'd say?Marco da Vinhahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06092410765851812842noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3348523519788188753.post-2372825194737159902018-03-18T05:33:34.958-05:002018-03-18T05:33:34.958-05:00Austin Farrer's "The Rebirth of Images&qu...Austin Farrer's "The Rebirth of Images" is the best book on the Apocalypse that I know. It helps that he treats it as God-breathed from the start, working with his unique idea of inspiration as a divine form of poetic inspiration. He traces all (but all) of the imagery in the prophetic OT, and peels back layer on layer of significance in the series of sevens - they are weeks, and they are the seasons of the Jewish festal calendar. He emphasises strongly that the book isn't meant to be visual imagery (Durer, enough!) and demystifies it be rooting it entirely in the OT, yet an OT oriented to Christ as Lord. I think it's fantastic, as you might have guessed.<br /><br />I disagree with his take on authorship. He thinks that the "presbyter" John of Ephesus (Papias) has been conflated with the Apostle John by some, erroneously supposed to be a second John of Ephesus in addition to the Apostle by others (Eusebius). He suggests a single John the presbyter (not Apostle) who wrote the Apocalypse first, the Gospel second.<br /><br />For what it is worth, my own opinion is that John the Apostle, just like Peter, identified himself as "presbyter", because the apostolic college of the church of Jerusalem is the origin of the presbyterate, and James was the original "bishop". Both college and episcopate were understood to have passed to Rome with Peter after the martyrdom of James & the destruction of Jerusalem... the Epilogue to the Gospel of John is the typological expression of this based on Christ's post-resurrection prophecy to Peter, and was written by John after Peter's death: i.e. the Petrine primacy emerged in the main after Peter's martyrdom. Apologies for taking up space with this last paragraph with my pet theory & hobby horse.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3348523519788188753.post-58076600488636227062018-03-16T09:01:45.976-05:002018-03-16T09:01:45.976-05:00That was the first book of the Sacred Scriptures i...That was the first book of the Sacred Scriptures i've read. It was so captivating i've read it in one breath when i was like 13 or 14, but of course i didn't draw any doctrinal or eschatological conclusions from that kind of reading...<br /><br />But still, my rating:<br />alpha/omega<br />would totally read it into eternityMarko Ivančičevićhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04579400863718513875noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3348523519788188753.post-81283578660794091532018-03-16T06:55:25.380-05:002018-03-16T06:55:25.380-05:00Ezekiel was also not to be read by young Jews befo...Ezekiel was also not to be read by young Jews before the age of 30. It also has some apocalyptic imagery wich the Apocalypse borrows from.Marco da Vinhahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06092410765851812842noreply@blogger.com