tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3348523519788188753.post2562858385001258093..comments2024-03-12T04:14:16.271-05:00Comments on The Rad Trad: Away in a Manger: No Heart in Your HeadThe Rad Tradhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00899289024837953345noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3348523519788188753.post-36966248582371610312016-12-24T07:51:11.425-06:002016-12-24T07:51:11.425-06:00That's a perfect description of an independent...That's a perfect description of an independent (i.e., Williamsonite) chapel near me - not so much a four hymn sandwich as a zillion hymn burrito, with the choir singing hymns nonstop over everything but the gospel and the canon. In short, a low Mass with endless hymns. <br /><br />But I think this tradition isn't nearly as old as the one in Portugal. Athelstanehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07346012062816580296noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3348523519788188753.post-33601978183782983072016-12-23T16:32:39.263-06:002016-12-23T16:32:39.263-06:00Protestant though their origins may be, "God ...Protestant though their origins may be, "God Rest Ye Merry Gentlemen" and "Hark the Herald Angels Sing" will always be my favorites. The melodies are beautiful, the focus is on the salvific aspect of the feast, and I will almost never complain if they are sung in church.<br /><br />"Away in a Manger" can go into the dustbin with "Deck the Halls" and "We Wish You a Merry Christmas"Ecclesial Vigilantehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17070187926547373245noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3348523519788188753.post-28927236113070965702016-12-23T13:54:48.281-06:002016-12-23T13:54:48.281-06:00Most probably what you describe was the case. That...Most probably what you describe was the case. That's how it was in Croatia.Marko Ivančičevićhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04579400863718513875noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3348523519788188753.post-46097796626529376422016-12-23T12:37:10.112-06:002016-12-23T12:37:10.112-06:00Ironically,"O Holy Night" was written as...Ironically,"O Holy Night" was written as a Hymn with Allusions to the "La Mareseillaise". <br />https://books.google.com.ph/books?id=S9CkCwAAQBAJ&pg=PA89&lpg=PA89&dq=revolutionary+minuit+chretiens&source=bl&ots=Sfcm3Jhls9&sig=0qDY14x5R7SS6-w1ehgqynmxTeA&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiPmcq8-orRAhWCKJQKHSFdA1oQ6AEISzAG#v=onepage&q=revolutionary%20minuit%20chretiens&f=falseJosemaria Paulo Jeromino Martin Carvalho-Von Versterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00128928800453615354noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3348523519788188753.post-28071056752655248602016-12-23T10:37:08.262-06:002016-12-23T10:37:08.262-06:00There was a tradition in Portugal of a novena of M...There was a tradition in Portugal of a novena of Masses before Christmas which were "sung", buy from what I've been able to tell, it was the laity singing " over" the Mass (I.e, singing hymns while the priest celebrated soto voce). I need to read up on what exactly was the praxis.Marco da Vinhahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06092410765851812842noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3348523519788188753.post-76347300410682418632016-12-23T01:56:53.444-06:002016-12-23T01:56:53.444-06:00Here in Croatia we have a great number of Church f...Here in Croatia we have a great number of Church folk songs. The Christmas section of those includes renditions of propers and the ordinary. That presents Croatians with a difficulty. There is a Christmas Kyrie which is okay - it doesn't replace the text. It's actually a troped Kyrie. <br />But the Gloria and Credo... oh my, those are only shadows of the actual texts. The problem? Those things were sung for at least 150 years. So: respect the tradition, or obey the rubric and say the actual text?<br />Well it's a difficulty for some. Not for me. I'm a dictator. I would suffer no such silly traditions over the age old texts, especially not over καὶ σαρκωθέντα ἐκ Πνεύματος Ἁγίου καὶ Μαρίας τῆς παρθένου καὶ ἐνανθρωπήσαντα.Marko Ivančičevićhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04579400863718513875noreply@blogger.com