tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3348523519788188753.post4923684127170788662..comments2024-03-12T04:14:16.271-05:00Comments on The Rad Trad: Palm Sunday (repost)The Rad Tradhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00899289024837953345noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3348523519788188753.post-23906669151123575272015-03-31T04:22:24.380-05:002015-03-31T04:22:24.380-05:00I don't know if you will be quite interested, ...I don't know if you will be quite interested, but the matter is interesting by itself.<br /><br />I have consulted the Toletan Missal of 1551. The Toletan liturgy was something similar to the Gallican rites of France: a roman rite with some survivals of the previous (Mozarabic) liturgy. This Missal has a quite striking benediction rite:<br /><br />The palms are blessed on a wooden table before the altar. After the choir sings Prime and Terce, the priest, deacon and subdeacon come to the sanctuary and, <i>uersus populum</i>, bless the palms. The priest is dressed in a <b>green</b> cope, the ministers in green dalmatic and tunicle. The prayers of blessing are, however, far closer to those of the Roman rite (with a Preface). After the blessing comes the Asperges, and then the Procession. There is a rite of triple knocking on the door, and after that the Mass begins, the priest and ministers dressed in the same paraments they used during Lent (I have not been able to found which they are exactly, but I suppose they would be violet or grey chasuble, dalmatic and tunicle - the ancient Mozarabic liturgy did not know folded chasubles, and the Toletan Missal seems to follow this rule). The Passion is sung by the same deacon who will sing the Gospel, but benediction is not asked for the former, as in the Roman rite.<br /><br />The Missal is hosted here (I don't know how to link to single pages):<br />https://books.google.es/books?id=65kzgGF5XIUC&printsec=frontcover&dq=Missale+mixtum+secundum+ordinem+almae+primatis+Ecclesiae+Toletanae&hl=es&sa=X&ei=dmMaVdLBMs2uPJm4gPgJ&ved=0CCcQ6AEwAQ#v=onepage&q&f=false<br /><br />K. e.Ἰουστινιανόςhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00853873178362328543noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3348523519788188753.post-20621778618510669472015-03-30T10:18:27.625-05:002015-03-30T10:18:27.625-05:00Missa Sicca et al. yesterday at my diocesan TLM pa...Missa Sicca et al. yesterday at my diocesan TLM parish in Southern NJ. And all preceded by five laymen, vested in cassock/surplice sitting in choro chanting Terce. It was a good day! The rector announced point blank before it began that "these (i.e. 1956) rites are now clearly seen as the beginning of a liturgical revolution leading to the NO, so we are using the ancient rites." If only the same logic could be applied to ditch the '62 Missal entirely, but in the words of Carlo Braga, we've applied the battering ram to the static Bugnini Liturgy, now only in reverse.Joanneshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00496552906164909711noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3348523519788188753.post-38060004429120390802015-03-30T10:13:45.878-05:002015-03-30T10:13:45.878-05:00Missa Sicca et al. yesterday at my diocesan TLM pa...Missa Sicca et al. yesterday at my diocesan TLM parish in Southern NJ. And all preceded by five laymen, vested in cassock/surplice sitting in choro chanting Terce. It was a good day! The rector announced point blank before it began that "these (i.e. 1956) rites are now clearly seen as the beginning of a liturgical revolution leading to the NO, so we are using the ancient rites." If only the same logic could be applied to ditch the '62 Missal entirely, but in the words of Carlo Braga, we've applied the battering ram to the static Bugnini Liturgy, now only in reverse.Joanneshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00496552906164909711noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3348523519788188753.post-66021168891036425042015-03-30T04:18:30.205-05:002015-03-30T04:18:30.205-05:00Though I consider the Pacellian destruction worthy...Though I consider the Pacellian destruction worthy of many anathemas, some time ago I found that the XVIII c. "Jansenist" Cluniac missal had a rite of blessing of the palms quite similar to the Pacellian one: without <i>missa sicca</i>, on a wooden table before the altar, and a very simple benediction - though <i>uersus turbam</i> was, of course, not even supposed.<br /><br />I have not be able to check the rite on the 1493 Cluniac missal, so I cannot say whether it was a "Jansenist" innovation or a tradition proper to this monastic branch.<br /><br />K. e.Ἰουστινιανόςhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00853873178362328543noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3348523519788188753.post-84254591201413746852015-03-30T03:30:30.243-05:002015-03-30T03:30:30.243-05:00The reason it was so meanly and dismally destroyed...The reason it was so meanly and dismally destroyed was because it represented something that did not have its uttermost origin in papal decree. To Pius XII's personal sense of infallible authority, that could not be brooked.Patrick Sheridanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07995907911415177074noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3348523519788188753.post-10851753667305898912015-03-29T17:18:53.574-05:002015-03-29T17:18:53.574-05:003:47 am... What an oddly specific time. 3:47 am... What an oddly specific time. Ecclesial Vigilantehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17070187926547373245noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3348523519788188753.post-36969321180990834332015-03-29T16:21:51.967-05:002015-03-29T16:21:51.967-05:00The finest day in the entire Liturgical Year IMHO ...The finest day in the entire Liturgical Year IMHO (with Holy Saturday as a very close second). Sadly, completely buggered by old Pius XII. What was wrong with it? Supposedly at the wrong time, need to be celebrated at 3:47am for some obscure or other reason?Rubricariushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05050302650867319277noreply@blogger.com