Hmm... No mention of t shirts: "This religious submission of mind and will must be shown in a special way to the authentic magisterium of the Roman Pontiff, even when he is not speaking ex cathedra; that is, it must be shown in such a way that his supreme magisterium is acknowledged with reverence, the judgments made by him are sincerely adhered to, according to his manifest mind and will. His mind and will in the matter may be known either from the character of the documents, from his frequent repetition of the same doctrine, or from his manner of speaking."
Maybe a bumper sticker on the papal Ford Fiesta will do?
Maybe, but the Papal Ford Fiesta? Surely not! This pope's favorite predecessor had his own Mercedes 600, a car which, at the time, was 40% more expensive than a Rolls Royce: http://www.thelifeofluxury.com/images/1965_mercedes_benz_600_pullman_landaulet_pope_paul_vi.jpg
Our Pope and Our Cross seems determined to alienate normal men and whereas Saint Vincent of Lerins teaches that the most religious of men reject novelty, Our Pope and Our Cross denigrates such Catholics as Pharisees and demands they accept his novelties as the surprises of God.
O, and there is not one Prelate who can turn him from his political agenda; he will not discharge the duties of his Divinely-Constitued Office (see Vatican 1) but, rather, he is continually striving to actualise the collectivist naturalism of his personal political agenda.
As to how it can be said he is humble is, like so many other things, beyond MJ's ability to understand; he is the most willful Popes in who'n'hell knows how long and woe betide that Traditionalist who stands in his way for he rhetorically excludes from the perfect society (Church) traditionalists whom he routinely derides and denigrates as unworthy of his lofty approval whereas he famously succors sodomites and liturgical lunatics and refuses to judge them.
He is busily digging his own grave and even First Things. has had it with him.
Who knows how much more damage he will do before he resigns and returns to the favela?
In the meantime, one must adhere to the teaching of Saint Vincent and refuse his novelties
It never ceases to amaze me how Roman Catholics make excuses for their "Infallible" Leader. Would in not be easier, and require far fewer apologies, to simply ignore the man and admit he is nothing more than one of the many thousands of heretical and apostate bishops in the Roman church? I say this not to insult but to sincerely question your loyalty to a church and a man (including his predecessors) which have since VC2 slowly but surely destroyed what was, at least in the West, the very citadel of religion and culture.
Fascinating. I didn't realize that in order to be a good Catholic one is not allowed to express any concern for the environment and the well-being of human communities. Neither did I realize that such concern constitutes a denial of the faith.
To quote my deacon, "There are 4 relationships we have that we must be concerned about in our life: to God, to other people, to ourselves, and to God's creation. We Christians were the original conservationists and we did it a lot better." I actually am concerned for the environment; however, I am not sure that necessitates opposing fracking or supporting the dodgy non-science around "global warming". Frankie seems to be jumping headlong into these things at the risk of looking stupid fifty or so years down the line. It would be more practical to tell Catholics: "Hey guys, conserve and respect nature." St. Francis of Assisi was not, after all, some dirty hippy.
StrongmanBob: My thought precisely when I read this post. To focus on THIS issue in the pontificate...
To TheRadTrad: I do really enjoy most of your work on Church related matters, but when it comes to politics, well... I think that there is need for a much more thoroughgoing critique of our modern civilization than what the Republican party has to offer, on a socio-economic level as much as on the liturgical level (extremely connected areas). That is one of the areas that we, as laymen, must take very seriously.
Usurious practices and environmental externalization, i.e., passing on the cost of our profiteering to someone else, can hardly be called just in any sense of the word. Exposing ourselves and our children to the dangers of fracking just to push out more oil... Well, in my judgment, that would not be something the prophets, fathers or saints would have approved of. This does not entail hippieism, which just is a convenient label (that you did not use, in all fairness) on par with "socialist" for anyone remotely concerned with the common good -- the very basis for Catholic social teaching, unlike the individualist liberalism of the Republicans.
Finally, I can't see how being employed at a company necessarily implies that one feels obliged to defend all of its practices, even arguably objectionable practices. Then I would probably never have a job, being the contrarian that I am...
In Christ, David
PS. I don't really think the price drop in oil is due to fracking as much as it is due to the Saudis... Nice bedfellows of the US government, by the way.
How many young Catholics do you think are going to believe Church doctrine is hippie environmentalism because Frankie said so?
ReplyDeleteDamned neocons.
I'm for protecting the earth and all, but I consider Jerry Jones' Death Star and Al Gore's private jet far greater insults t the earth than fracking.
"The Church is not an NGO." - Pope Francis
ReplyDeleteUh huh.
Hmm... No mention of t shirts: "This religious submission of mind and will must be shown in a special way to the authentic magisterium of the Roman Pontiff, even when he is not speaking ex cathedra; that is, it must be shown in such a way that his supreme magisterium is acknowledged with reverence, the judgments made by him are sincerely adhered to, according to his manifest mind and will. His mind and will in the matter may be known either from the character of the documents, from his frequent repetition of the same doctrine, or from his manner of speaking."
ReplyDeleteMaybe a bumper sticker on the papal Ford Fiesta will do?
Maybe, but the Papal Ford Fiesta? Surely not! This pope's favorite predecessor had his own Mercedes 600, a car which, at the time, was 40% more expensive than a Rolls Royce: http://www.thelifeofluxury.com/images/1965_mercedes_benz_600_pullman_landaulet_pope_paul_vi.jpg
DeleteOur Pope and Our Cross seems determined to alienate normal men and whereas Saint Vincent of Lerins teaches that the most religious of men reject novelty, Our Pope and Our Cross denigrates such Catholics as Pharisees and demands they accept his novelties as the surprises of God.
ReplyDeleteO, and there is not one Prelate who can turn him from his political agenda; he will not discharge the duties of his Divinely-Constitued Office (see Vatican 1) but, rather, he is continually striving to actualise the collectivist naturalism of his personal political agenda.
As to how it can be said he is humble is, like so many other things, beyond MJ's ability to understand; he is the most willful Popes in who'n'hell knows how long and woe betide that Traditionalist who stands in his way for he rhetorically excludes from the perfect society (Church) traditionalists whom he routinely derides and denigrates as unworthy of his lofty approval whereas he famously succors sodomites and liturgical lunatics and refuses to judge them.
He is busily digging his own grave and even First Things. has had it with him.
Who knows how much more damage he will do before he resigns and returns to the favela?
In the meantime, one must adhere to the teaching of Saint Vincent and refuse his novelties
It never ceases to amaze me how Roman Catholics make excuses for their "Infallible" Leader. Would in not be easier, and require far fewer apologies, to simply ignore the man and admit he is nothing more than one of the many thousands of heretical and apostate bishops in the Roman church? I say this not to insult but to sincerely question your loyalty to a church and a man (including his predecessors) which have since VC2 slowly but surely destroyed what was, at least in the West, the very citadel of religion and culture.
DeleteThis reminds me of the photo of HH Benedict XVI with Kiko and Carmen Hernandez... she wore sweat pants and an Adidas t-shirt.
ReplyDeleteFascinating. I didn't realize that in order to be a good Catholic one is not allowed to express any concern for the environment and the well-being of human communities. Neither did I realize that such concern constitutes a denial of the faith.
ReplyDeleteTo quote my deacon, "There are 4 relationships we have that we must be concerned about in our life: to God, to other people, to ourselves, and to God's creation. We Christians were the original conservationists and we did it a lot better."
DeleteI actually am concerned for the environment; however, I am not sure that necessitates opposing fracking or supporting the dodgy non-science around "global warming". Frankie seems to be jumping headlong into these things at the risk of looking stupid fifty or so years down the line. It would be more practical to tell Catholics: "Hey guys, conserve and respect nature."
St. Francis of Assisi was not, after all, some dirty hippy.
StrongmanBob: My thought precisely when I read this post. To focus on THIS issue in the pontificate...
DeleteTo TheRadTrad: I do really enjoy most of your work on Church related matters, but when it comes to politics, well... I think that there is need for a much more thoroughgoing critique of our modern civilization than what the Republican party has to offer, on a socio-economic level as much as on the liturgical level (extremely connected areas). That is one of the areas that we, as laymen, must take very seriously.
Usurious practices and environmental externalization, i.e., passing on the cost of our profiteering to someone else, can hardly be called just in any sense of the word. Exposing ourselves and our children to the dangers of fracking just to push out more oil... Well, in my judgment, that would not be something the prophets, fathers or saints would have approved of. This does not entail hippieism, which just is a convenient label (that you did not use, in all fairness) on par with "socialist" for anyone remotely concerned with the common good -- the very basis for Catholic social teaching, unlike the individualist liberalism of the Republicans.
Finally, I can't see how being employed at a company necessarily implies that one feels obliged to defend all of its practices, even arguably objectionable practices. Then I would probably never have a job, being the contrarian that I am...
In Christ,
David
PS. I don't really think the price drop in oil is due to fracking as much as it is due to the Saudis... Nice bedfellows of the US government, by the way.